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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk

Caspian, I think you tangled yourself too much into trying to figure out what happened

This is probably very true.

KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk

-Tulpamancy is narrative -Your whole brain builds narrative and sometimes it can come from outside of your consciousness, but you are the agent accepting it or not -Sometimes things can get weird (like the situation you described), but you will not find the truth by digging in the weirdness. The weirdness will be part of narrative, and you accept it or not. -There are no walk-ins, there are only let-ins -You are the boss in your head and you decide what happens (edited)

Okay. I will do my best to remember that. (edited)

I read thar :S

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What’s the most advanced software to manage tulpas? (edited)

Tulpas are not in a computer?

huh

Unless you mean software used for forcing?

10:24 AM

Howdy Dev, do you have a question about tulpas?

just commenting on the above question.

Ah

Maybe they mean keeping track of all the details of everyone's identity Like forgetful people keep journals

gitLike

What’s the most advanced software to manage tulpas? (edited)

tulpy 2, runs on brain OS

if it’s a legit question, simplyplural? Never used it but I hear about it

I know a certain someone working on something like that, but that certain software is not ready for use

Someone else's problem

Maybe they mean keeping track of all the details of everyone's identity Like forgetful people keep journals

isn't that a bad thing that you have to keep track of all the details of your tulpas on an app? (edited)

4:52 PM

that shows that you can't keep up with your tulpas because you have so many of them. idk though, just stating my opinion (edited)

We're a really large system and do have some stuff for things like that. Never really forget identity stuff though, that's just kinda innate. Most of our problems stem from bad memory instead of system size.

how big is your system Dawn?

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isn't that a bad thing that you have to keep track of all the details of your tulpas on an app? (edited)

Some people have many Or even just long history's of adventures in wonderland Singlets keep diary's too

it's nice to keep track, I've used SimplyPlural before and even though it didn't help us much, it seemed like a neat little tool

how big is your system Dawn?

@KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk - jump 16, 14 of which were made through some form of forcing and 2 walk-ins that were kept.

5:36 PM

Wait messed up meant to say 13 and 3

so it's 10 by choice?

All of us are here by choice but most of us weren't intentionally created as tulpas the beginning. Most of us were made through some stupid experiments on my host's end and he and Shade decided to keep us after. After that incident we had 2 walk-ins, I purposely made a tulpa, and our final member formed in August and was made from a hypnosis file.

5:43 PM

Note: when I say had walk-ins I mean walk-ins we kept. We threw out others and then stopped experiencing walk-in phenomena for the most part.

I have a question what is the difference between forcing and manifesting a tulpa, Both require visualizing tulpa or what you want to have so is there a big difference between them and if so how can I manifes my tulpa ?( I don't know much about manifesting )

I don't know about any difference. But in grounding your tulpa's Self... Just talk to them a lot

I'm not sure if I understand what you mean by "manifesting". Was there a guide or a specific system who used that word?

A long kiss goodnight

I'm not sure if I understand what you mean by "manifesting". Was there a guide or a specific system who used that word?

Not sure, but I heard that manifesting is something you practice or do so you can get what you want in life it kinda like visualizing what you want to have and it will happen thay call it Law of Attraction, I didn't understand it that much, but I thought it was similar to forcing, it may seems stupid for those who know what manifesting is

no difference, people use different words because tulpa community is decentralised

11:32 AM

be prepared to see that happen a lot

centralise tulpamancy

nah

besides, tulpa central already exists, and everyone knows how that turned out :p

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Aside from what shield said, the only thing I can think of is manifesting is either a metaphysical term or it's referring to imposition.

Sellato

Not sure, but I heard that manifesting is something you practice or do so you can get what you want in life it kinda like visualizing what you want to have and it will happen thay call it Law of Attraction, I didn't understand it that much, but I thought it was similar to forcing, it may seems stupid for those who know what manifesting is

If you visualise moving your hand and afterwads you move it, did you manifest it?

A long kiss goodnight

Aside from what shield said, the only thing I can think of is manifesting is either a metaphysical term or it's referring to imposition.

Look for it a lot of famous people use this( Law of Attraction ) thing, we could put this in the discussion panel, i think it could help our tulpa's a lot

rich people just use the law of attraction as a way of blaming poor people for being poor. 'clearly must not have wanted more/couldn't imagine more'

2:51 PM

i am very hesitant to assign it any merit when applied to objects outside the brain.

It is related to the subconscious mind and its capabilities, and when you say that you have something with all positivity, confidence and gratitude, you will own it. For example, you want to have a job, so you imagine that you own it and feel everything when you have this job. By the law of attraction. It is like when you imagine that you have a tulpa, so you must fully believe that you have it and you must believe in its existence and that it is already beside you, so now you have attracted it to you, so I am not an expert in the subject, but during my browsing I found this simple definition. (edited)

&belle

rich people just use the law of attraction as a way of blaming poor people for being poor. 'clearly must not have wanted more/couldn't imagine more'

&belle

i am very hesitant to assign it any merit when applied to objects outside the brain.

Yeah me too

i think it's probably valuable for tulpamancy since it basically says 'force enough and you'll tulpa', though it's not particularly special in that regard :p

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https://www.verywellmind.com/understanding-and-using-the-law-of-attraction-3144808 From reading this, it's basically a mindset about life. The thinking is you're always in control of your situation, which isn't always true. I can see how it can be abused tell poor people are poor- the baseline assumption is people can magically be not poor, but that's not how life works. Given that context of manifest, I would consider it a more metaphysical interpretation of forcing- belief in your tulpa "manifests" or creates a tulpa. I, having a psychological view on tulpa creation, believe belief in your tulpa opens you up to the possibility a tulpa can exist, thus allowing the opportunity for developing one. I don't know how exactly your brain makes a tulpa or neurologically what the opportunity for developing one looks like, I just believe that's what's happening. Long story short, what shield said- it's just another way to say forcing.

Look for it a lot of famous people use this( Law of Attraction ) thing, we could put this in the discussion panel, i think it could help our tulpa's a lot

@Sellato - jump whatever helps you getting a tulpa man

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it kinda is an inherently victim-blaming philosophy, though :\

3:02 PM

but yeah, applied on a more limited scale it's probably okay. (edited)

Sellato

It is related to the subconscious mind and its capabilities, and when you say that you have something with all positivity, confidence and gratitude, you will own it. For example, you want to have a job, so you imagine that you own it and feel everything when you have this job. By the law of attraction. It is like when you imagine that you have a tulpa, so you must fully believe that you have it and you must believe in its existence and that it is already beside you, so now you have attracted it to you, so I am not an expert in the subject, but during my browsing I found this simple definition. (edited)

And guys I don't know if I used the right terms it's Google Translate

that's fair

In general, optimistic thinking can be very beneficial. Usually you can do something, but that doesn't guarantee things will then get better or you have tons of control over the situation In regards to tulpamancy, I think this also applies. Generally there's a mindset issue, but sometimes if you're really struggling you have to consider if your mental health is making things too difficult and you need to reassess or come up with a new plan.

Sellato

And guys I don't know if I used the right terms it's Google Translate

This makes sense to me, I think I missed it while I was looking it up, sorry ^^'

A long kiss goodnight

This makes sense to me, I think I missed it while I was looking it up, sorry ^^'

But I'm sure about (manifesting and low of Attraction terms)

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Hey o/ How to know if we have or not an inner world, since none of us have memories of anything that happens outside the front?

err... have a look around, i suppose?

1:07 PM

or just choose to make something.

&belle

or just choose to make something.

How can we look around?

i was hoping you would know how your brain works on that front, but i probably shouldn't have since you mentioned you weren't sure

3:26 PM

i guess it'd make most sense to start with the assumption there's nothing, and focus on creating something, and maybe if you find something else along the way then cool?

3:30 PM

or, like, don't, if you don't care about having one

Makikikikiki

Hey o/ How to know if we have or not an inner world, since none of us have memories of anything that happens outside the front?

Inner worlds dont need fictional memories its just a made up place. Are you able to imagine objects and places youve been?

Rusty

Inner worlds dont need fictional memories its just a made up place. Are you able to imagine objects and places youve been?

Yes, but I have difficult to maintain the form of those things Like, if I imagine a white chair its color and form may change out of nowhere (edited)

&belle

i was hoping you would know how your brain works on that front, but i probably shouldn't have since you mentioned you weren't sure

Thanks ❤️

welcome

could some people share their experiences with fronting around others, please? Like, how much did people notice or not notice?

It depends If the person knowns about the system they tend to notice quite easily But when they don't, they have no idea Mainly cuz people know nothing about plurality

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No one notices anything. I don't do anything out of the ordinary while fronting in front of other people. I know how to act the same way our host does

but what about not masking

10:33 PM

more importantly

Most of us don't mask much. Our tone of voice and speach in general is different from the host's, but since plurality isn't common knowledge, people tend to think we are the host but in a different mood than usual

even close people?

11:03 PM

how often do people comment?

We told to our close friends about our plurality

11:04 PM

So I do not think we can provide data about this aspect

what about the second question

What do you mean by comment?

point out that you’re acting different or something like that

If they know about our system, they comment. Some all the time it happens, others feel like something is off but do not comment immediately

In the end, it will depend on the person

I'm told people won't noticed even if you don't mask. Though, I would recommend behaving like a regular respectable human in general

12:09 AM

I am perhaps overly concerned with fitting in, when I think about it I can't find much reason to act differently around people who don't know who I am. It would feel like it's for show in some way and trying to keep it a secret at the same time. Others may feel differently and find other ways of doing things

I am more verbose and immediately take up a different accent, so I recognize that and fall silent until I can hop out. That or I simply perform a task quietly.

Kira 🐉

could some people share their experiences with fronting around others, please? Like, how much did people notice or not notice?

People have a really hard time telling me and Gray apart. Our therapist pointed out that I talk faster and I have more micro expressions... I guess

I don't know Gray enough to be able to tell any difference

Our other headmates don't switch in enough for other people to know

I don't know Gray enough to be able to tell any difference

@Rusty - jump It's been awhile since I joined VC

Aya

I'm told people won't noticed even if you don't mask. Though, I would recommend behaving like a regular respectable human in general

I dunno, Error said a singular thing to my dad once and he was immedately like 'are you ok?'

1:51 AM

and I have no idea why lol

I think Gray laughs differently than I do, but that could be in my head

I honestly think people would tell something is off if Error talked to them

He speaks differently, far more rude and more.... idk, emotive?

I do get that vibe from him

Question...... Tulpa systems are endo systems right? And aren't endo systems very looked down upon? In my case I accidentally summoned my tulpas, so I thought I was an osdd-1b system (I'm obviously not) and it's been really rough until this point of finding this label...so I didn't choose to be a system, but it's not caused due to trauma. I think system is a term for non-endo systems, and collective is for endo 'systems'? Correct me if I'm wrong I feel nervous I could be invalidating an entire community with a horrible life ruining disorder that they cannot control

as far as I know, system- a group of people inhabiting the same brain Endo systems are systems.

4:43 PM

and endo systems I’m pretty sure are just any system without trauma origins

Labels are wack

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4:44 PM

Use what works for ya, but we find that tulpa systems don't typically bother with the system label, usually just "Me and [Tulpa]"

4:45 PM

Least that's what I've observed

I prefer “my headmates” to “my tulpas” because I think headmates sounds more like buddies, and my tulpas sounds a bit more like I’m above them somehow That’s just me

Its a tulpa system. I refuse to use the endo label